, khristine , 1 Comment. Both patriotism and nationalism involve love of, identification with, and special concern for a certain entity. Imagine what it would be like if the homogenization is take to an extreme. Do you think that being an early target of internet fact-finding, after the controversy over your reporting on George W. Bush’s military service, gives you a perspective on using new media now that other people might not have? That is, unless we want to surge toward a French Revolution-style bloodbath, which is always our option, n’est-ce pas? Nationalism has to do with what ties a people together; it’s social and cultural, not directly related to government. this might be the last 1 so treat it nice This forum is closed—no new threads or posts can be created. “Can anything be stupider than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarreled with him?”—Blaise Pascal. But we cannot be content with it in the initial form in which it is given. August 26, 2011 Even I can be dumb as dirt about a lot of things, but at least I realized fairly early on that the internet is the most fundamental new technology since the steam engine, so I just had to get involved with it. My friend, you would not tell with such high zest

And in doing so, it allows the public to always strive for progress, encourages citizens to take part in the nation’s decision making, and helps in maintaining peace within the country as well as fighting the various issues that threatens it.

© John Prine.

Or it might be needed to keep a country from fracturing, if there are distinct groups who would prefer not to be united under the same flag. On the other hand, a people and their culture can be spread out across the world regardless of borders. Patriotism is the glue that unites a country. So, patriotism is needed, but in small, post Pearl Harbor/9-11 doses (except without the Japanese/Arab racism that inherently comes with that). Still, they’re useful from time to time, like a lot of other tools that humans have made and set aside over the years. were made possible in part due to the countless soldiers and pawns that were blinded by their pride and who were ready to kill and be killed simply based on a supposed national/ethnic pride. They’re already overcrowded It has been years since I have seen even one. For those reluctant to link to an outside website, the lyrics are as follows: Your Flag Decal Won’t Get You Into Heaven Anymore We do, now more than ever.

Why didn’t comedians at the time pull stunts like that? Feel free to contact us at BreakPoint.org where you can read and search answers to common questions. @kritiper That’s not patriotism, as discussed above. It was then that I knew I loved my country, and I felt shame for ever taking her for granted. Please try again. Im not advocating cynicism, but ultimately, love for your country or ethnic group can lead you to do some fucked up shit. Benjamin Franklin got at this when he said, "If we do not all hang together, we will all hang separately." However, one should consider that patriotism does not end in respecting the flag, affirming the pledge of allegiance, or even supporting the government and its policies. Why do you think you’ve taken to it so well? Every nationalist is proud of the fact they are born within the bounds of a continous violent nation state that earned its land by killing the natives, enslaving them, or otherwise stealing the land for their own selfish goals before putting in place mechanisms to perpetuate control of that land to their children or associates or aristocrats before it entered the modern day era and became children, associates, or fellow aristocrats.

And surely, patriotism cannot mean giving one’s life for a river or a mountain range. They are told they are still outsiders. It doesn’t matter if we need it because it’s there, but of course we know the ideology is close minded and ignorant when applied to real life by people. The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est

Are we saying that an American life is any more valuable than a Pakistani life? https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/993625995499356160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.